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   1. How is Peering policy handled in the backend? (Haider Ali)<br>
   2. Re: How is Peering policy handled in the backend?<br>
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 16:06:29 +0500<br>
From: Haider Ali <<a href="mailto:haiderrana45@gmail.com" target="_blank">haiderrana45@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: INEX IXP Manager Users Mailing List <<a href="mailto:ixpmanager@inex.ie" target="_blank">ixpmanager@inex.ie</a>><br>
Subject: [ixpmanager] How is Peering policy handled in the backend?<br>
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Dear Community,<br>
                           How is the peering policy implemented in the IXP<br>
manager at the backend? Is it done by route server? If the route server is<br>
not used then will the selective peering still can occur? If yes then how?<br>
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Also, if the route server is handling all the peering policies such as open<br>
or selective then how is it handling?  Explaining the question through an<br>
example. Suppose there are two ISPs: ISP A and ISP B. Can an ISP A provide<br>
the prefixes in selective peering through its customer portal that I want<br>
these prefixes to go to ISP B and vice versa. If yes, then how is this<br>
thing implemented? Is it implemented through route server or what? If it is<br>
implemented through route server then how? Can you share any link for such<br>
configurations?<br>
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So, the basic question is:<br>
How is selective peering being handled at the backend?<br>
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One more question is that is there any specific application we should use<br>
for route server? I am using quagga for route server.<br>
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Thanks for always helping the deployment of IXP manager in Pakistan<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Haider<br>
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 15:36:05 +0100<br>
From: "Nick Hilliard (INEX)" <<a href="mailto:nick@inex.ie" target="_blank">nick@inex.ie</a>><br>
To: INEX IXP Manager Users Mailing List <<a href="mailto:ixpmanager@inex.ie" target="_blank">ixpmanager@inex.ie</a>>, Haider<br>
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Haider Ali wrote on 03/08/2019 12:06:<br>
> How is selective peering being handled at the backend?<br>
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It isn't.  The participants at the IXP determine how they want their <br>
prefixes to be exchanged.<br>
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If they have bilateral BGP sessions, then this is entirely a matter for <br>
them, and the IXP has no way of interfering with this.  If they choose <br>
to use the route servers, then:<br>
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outgoing prefixes: they can use the standard community tags if they want <br>
their prefixes to be sent or blocked for other RS clients.<br>
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incoming prefixes: they can use standard BGP as path filters or prefix <br>
lists to filter out what they don't want to see.<br>
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The IXP doesn't control any of this.  The control is solely in the hands <br>
of the IXP participants because they are better at deciding what's most <br>
appropriate for their routing policy.<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
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