[ixpmanager] Looking forward to version7

Barry O'Donovan (INEX) barry.odonovan at inex.ie
Wed Oct 23 10:19:27 IST 2024


Thanks Pete for the detail.

I think this proves Nick's point that everyone has their favourite 
operating system.

(1) doesn't bother me; (2) doesn't affect me as I don't use snaps and 
have never found I needed to; (3) sounds like something that could be 
solved but fortunately I've not used pxe boot for a server in ~15+ 
years; (4) ubuntu-minimal (*) is still a thing and the automated install 
scripts will work from that no problem.

I think the tl;dr for everyone is: feel free to roll your own. IXP 
Manager is a "LAMP" stack application but the (L)inux can just as easily 
be whatever-BSD and the (A)pache can be Nginx/Lighttpd. The only hard 
requires are the version specified of PHP and MySQL.

  - Barry

(*) honestly, the minimal install is no minimal I often end up running 
'unminimize' in frustration on dev / local boxes.




Pete Ashdown via ixpmanager wrote on 22/10/2024 21:09:
> 1) The default advertisements for Ubuntu cloud services.  Yes, I know they can be disabled, but they have been expanding rather than staying static.
> 2) The whole snap vs packages fiasco, and the movement towards preferring snaps over debs.
> 3) PXE installs of Ubuntu went belly-up.  I spent a good amount of time trying to get 22.04 installer to work with PXE.  PXE is something we use extensively here. New installer tends to segfault.  Leaving the Debian installer for something that crashes isn’t great.  It isn’t designed for network installation.
> 4) Bloat of the system keeps expanding.  Debian remains streamlined.  I’d rather have a minimal install that I add what I need, than something that tries to predict what I need.
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2024, at 7:46 AM, Justin Krejci via ixpmanager <ixpmanager at inex.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>> And for the same reason as Pete, I will head for a new Debian too.
>>
>>> What did I miss that has annoyed people re Ubuntu 24.04?
>>
>> My thoughts exactly. I quite like Ubuntu, 24.04 inclusive. (sorry for drifting more off topic). Is it an issue with IXP Manager specifically or is something else bothering people?
>>
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